I saw they found Anna.
I know.
My worst fear is confirmed.
Her memories-- memories of her just keep flooding back.
Walking down the river in the moonlight.
The smell of her hair.
Her laughter.
Making love on the blanket under the old oak tree.
Who killed her, Fred.
I think it was Rena.
How did you know where she was buried?
Because I heard her calling to me, Janet.
Do you really expect me to believe that?
Life's full of such wonders and mysteries, Janet.
I mean, it's a wonder that you came into my life.
It's an bigger one that you are the image of my Anna.
Did you ever see a picture of her?
Yeah.
See, I could no more hurt Anna than I could hurt you.
FRED: If you want the truth about Anna and my own life
I've written it down.
I was loved--
By an angel.
My Anna was an angel.
You've written angle.
In fact, half of this is all misspelled.
Well, I know, I let school at 14.
FRED: But you could me, Janet.
You could help me write the true story of my life.
Then you'd know everything, wouldn't you.
When this is over, I want you to tell
the world what really happened.
The truth needs to come out.
FRED (VOICEOVER): Dear Janet, My book is coming
along well thanks to your help.
I'm looking forward to seeing you again so you
can read more about Anna.
JANET (VOICEOVER): Dear Fred, I hope
to be able to get up to Birmingham again
early next month.
I bought some T-shirts as you asked.
And I'm really looking forward to reading
the next part of you book.
FRED (VOICEOVER): Dear Janet, The more I write my book,
the more I think about Anna.
And the more I think about her, the more
I know she was the one.
When I fell in love with Rose, it was
the other in Rose the I saw.
But you too are my guide, Janet, for I see Anna in you too.
But I cannot see her in Rose no more as she
do not even answer my letters.
It's hard for me to face this, but I have realized that Rose
loved Rose and no one else.
And so as Anna is dead, I am left with only you, Janet,
as a true soul mate.
But it is a good job Rose do not know of how close we have come
as she would be very jealous.
MIKE: Hi.
Hi
You all right?
Yeah.
Another?
Yeah.
Proper little pen pal he's becoming.
MIKE: And is he telling you stuff I don't?
Well, there's nothing concrete.
But the more I open the lines of communication, the more likely
I think he will.
I thought of a way you could get out with this.
- What? - Journalist.
The Irish guy, the one you said seemed all right.
I spoke to him.
What?
He's "The Mirror" crime reporter.
I don't want to talk to any journalists, Mike.
I bet he'll have information that can help you.
These guys have all kinds of sources.
Good to meet you.
I think there are more bodies.
What makes you say that?
Well, what I'm hearing, there were 10
murders between 1971 and 1979.
And yet only one between 1979 and 1994.
That's 15 years.
Only one murder.
Do you believe that?
JOURNALIST: Then there's who did the killing.
Fred.
And in some cases with Roses help.
JOURNALIST: You know Fred has a younger brother called John.
Yeah.
Have the police mentioned to you anything
about a so-called cult, Fred, Rose,
John, with others possibly.
JOURNALIST: Ritual killing of maybe 20 children
whose names we don't even know yet.
Oh, my god.
JOURNALIST: Could be no more than a rumor.
But knowing Fred, would you really ruled it out?
And if there are more bodies, surely they have to be found.
You You still in touch with them?
Yeah.
Hoping to get him to make further admissions?
Not least about Rose, because he's confident
that she's going to get off.
But you not working with the police anymore.
No.
Well, I'd be glad to work with you.
Glad to pass you any information that comes my way in case
it helps.
JOURNALIST: And, of course, we could
pay a token amount up front.
But we wouldn't print the story until after Fred and Rose have
been tried, because we don't do anything which
might prejudice the trial.
And after the trial, there could be a substantial amount.
I think you should do it love.
And it wouldn't jeopardized the court case?
Not if you don't have to give evidence.
FRED: There I'd be on me bike outside the chippie.
Girl's all looking at me all sulky like.
Coming on the back, love?
Often the dollie did.
King of the library I was.
It was the quiff that did it, Janet.
Equivalent Never quite the same since the accident.
JANET: Accident?
Yeah.
I come off my bike one night.
Bust me it real bad.
Doctor pronounced me dead.
Woke up on the bloody mortuary slab.
Here.
Feel this scare.
Go on.
I got a present for you.
Bambi.
Janet, that's my favorite ever.
Yeah, you said.
You've seen it?
Yeah
It breaks my heart.
And that bit-- the bit that always gets me most
is when he's wandering through the woods.
And the snow is coming down.
He's calling for his mother.
You remember?
Yeah.
When a youngster goes for their mom
and their mom don't come, Janet.
Then Bambi's dad says, your mother
can't be with you anymore.
I didn't going in there with them.
Didn't go in where?
The barn.
What?
Who is in the barn?
Rose?
It was a job?
Are you saying they took children in there?
What happened?
They hung them from the beam.
I was over by the substation, but I
could still hear their cries.
If I close my eyes, I can still hear them now.
I can't get it out of my hand.
I mean, he's told me horrific things in the past,
but nothing like this.
I don't know what to do with it.
I can't sleep.
And I can't go to Mike about it.
You can talk about it to me all you like, love.
I know.
I still can't get rid of the pictures.
It's the sound, the cries of children.
I've got children.
However hard I try to stop thinking about somebody
doing those things to them.
Then stop.
For your own peace of mind, stop.
I can't.
How many more dead are there that we don't even know about?
Five?
10?
I need to know, Fred.
JANET: 20.
At least.
FRED: And you will know about more, Janet.
One day, I swear you won't be left with unanswered questions
as I've been.
What unanswered questions?
FRED: About who killed Anna.
If you ever find that, Janet, whether it was Rena
or whoever it was, I want you to come to my resting place
and tell me.
Then I shall have some peace.
But I want to help give you peace, too, Janet.
Then help me.
FRED: I'm trying.
My head's all muddled by all the distress
that Rose is causing me.
Rose isn't even here.
FRED: She's in here.
She's in here.
FRED: When we were first together, I was in charge,
but she takes pleasure in making me feel small.
She thinks she has power over me even now, but she doesn't.
Then make that clear to her.
How.
She won't answer my letters.
And when we meet in court for the remand hearings,
she looks--
looks at me like I'm not even in the same room.
Then treat her the same way.
What do you mean?
JANET: The next time you're together in court,
just ignore her.
Make her feel the way that she makes you feel.
JANET: You have to make the final break
with her, however painful.
I don't think I've got the strength.
FRED: Unless.
Unless what?
Unless you are there.
FRED: See if you were there then Anna would be there.
And Anna would give me the strength to show
Rose I don't need her any more.
FRED: Do you see that?
You look great.
Thanks.
You sure you don't want me to come with you?
Yeah, positive.
Thanks.
JUDGE: Where does this case stand?
Mum, the matter is being dealt with by constabulary.
We anticipate there may be further charges.
We request the defendants are held
for another four weeks for a committal bundle
to be gathered.
JUDGE: Thank you.
Do you have any representations to make on behalf
of Frederick West, Mr. Miles?
No, mum.
JUDGE: And on behalf of Rose West?
No, mum.
JUDGE: You're both remanded in custody
while the prosecution continues to put
together its committal papers.
A provisional date for the committal hearing
has been set at 6th of February.
You will return to court then.
Do you understand?
Yes, ma'am.
JUDGE: Mrs West?
JUDGE: Take him down.
Rose.
Rose, please.
All right, they're ready.
Leave them a minute. They're hot.
Hi, my name's Janet Leach.
I've got a call, but with a prisoner at 4 o'clock.
Frederick West.
FRED (ON PHONE): Janet?
How are you?
Fine, thanks.
FRED (ON PHONE): I haven't seen you in a while.
It's been a bit difficult with my college work and everything.
FRED (ON PHONE): Did you get that visiting order.
Yeah, but I'm ringing to say that I can't make it.
Oh, I see.
Well, when can you make it?
Well, as long as it's not because you're angry with me.
Well, I thought after what happened in court,
I though maybe you thought I'd let you down.
If you let anyone down, Fred, it was yourself.
FRED (ON PHONE): Or made you feel like you
were second best, you see.
I meant what I said about Anna being the one.
And that I see more in you than I do in Rose.
Fred, you know what?
I don't give a damn about where you see Anna.
FRED (ON PHONE): Ah, but you do. I can tell.
And believe me, nothing's changed in my feelings for you.
It's just that I had to give Rose one last chance
to show she loves me.
Do you see?
I really think we can move things on in the new year.
FRED (ON PHONE): That your kids I can hear?
Yeah.
Well, save place for me at the Christmas dinner table, eh.
Hello.
Yeah, yeah, I am. Why?
What's happened?
He's hung himself.
He roped part of his bed linen apparently.
Obviously planned it carefully.
Seems you were due to visit him.
Yeah.
He wanted me to visit before Christmas.
But it was impossible.
Do you think that might be anything to do with it?
Are you saying that's why he killed himself?
That this was my fault?
You were playing with fire, Mrs. Leach.
I tried to warn you.
The fact is it will now will be very difficult to convict Rose
West because the one person who could tell us exactly
what she's done is dead.
What's more, his death means that any obligation
of confidentiality that you had with regards
to your conversation with Fred is gone.
Now you must tell me everything, and I mean everything,
that he ever said to you.
What did he tell you about the barn?
Only fragments.
He spoke about standing outside and hearing
the cries of children.
And did he say that Rose was there.
I asked him about Rose being inside
and about his brother John too, but he never
really gave a clear answer.
Well, we're aware of the bar stories.
We'll continue to look into it.
And John West is still under investigation.
But Rose West won't be convicted on rumor.
I need evidence.
DETECTIVE: We found the remains of Theresa Siegenthaler
under the cellar floor.
Did he speak to you privately about her?
I only heard what he said in police interviews.
Shirley Hubbard?
The same.
Only what he said in interviews.
DETECTIVE: We believe that Fred left her with Rose for the day.
That Rose used various instruments
to torture and sexually violate the girl before Fred came home
and jointly they murdered her.
Did he discuss that privately with you?
No
DETECTIVE: But he told you that Rose was involved
in some of the murders.
JANET: And how cold hearted and cruel she could be.
But it's detail I need if we're
to make the charges stick.
I know.
And I'm trying to give you all the detail I can remember.
Anna McFall.
JANET: Yeah, he often spoke about Anna to me.
You helped him write this, I believe.
Yeah.
So you've read it then?
JANET: Only bits of it.
And I was hoping that there would be detail
in there that would help.
It's sentimental trash.
It's bull shit.
He Never loved her.
DETECTIVE: He never had any real feelings for her at all.
He just used, abused, and killed her.
He always denied killing Anna.
Well, of course, he did.
Wrapped in the picnic blanket they
used to have sex on she was.
And he'd taken their baby from her womb.
DETECTIVE: You look upset.
I should read this before you shed too many tears.
What is it?
DETECTIVE: A copy of a letter to Rose we found in his cell.
Keep your promises to me.
You know what they are.
I have a new present.
All I have is my life.
I will give it to you, my darling.
When you are ready to come to me, I will be waiting for you.
DETECTIVE: His death was a last gift to Rose.
Or a way of cursing the rest of her life for rejecting him.
Either way, you were utterly irrelevant to him.
MIKE: Janet, it's all fit.
I'm going into college today.
I didn't feel very well.
What?
What about the kids?
Do you want me to drop them at school?
Yeah
All right.
MIKE: Abby, Chris, Jake, get your bags.
Come on.
MIKE: Janet?
What are you doing?
What the hell you playing at?
I don't know if I was going to do it.
That's not what it looks like to me.
Why?
Christ, what were you thinking?
I don't know. I just--
Just what?
What?
You just what?
You miss him, don't you?
Don't speak.
Yeah, yeah, I can see you do.
Look at me.
You miss Fred West.
I miss--
I miss feeling that I mattered.
I missed feeling that I was needed.
MIKE: What?
You think I don't need you?
Your kids don't?
Of course you do.
But it's just not in the same way.
Have you any idea how hurtful that is.
I'm sorry, honey.
I'm sorry.
JANET: I really am sorry.
I just don't know how I can explain it to you.
No, no, don't worry.
Look, I don't care how desperate you get,
how despondent and miserable you are for the rest of your life,
you cannot do this to your children.
MIKE: It's all right.
JANET: I'm so sorry.
MIKE: It's all right.
Come on.
Jurors in the Rose West murder trial heard for the first time
the voice of her husband Frederick
in taped police interviews.
JOURNALIST (ON TV): On the tapes,
the court heard him say he was responsible for all
the murders.
Rosemary was not.
He said he killed most of his victims
because they threatened to tell his wife about his affairs
with them.
Those close to him say he was protecting someone.
Janet Leach?
Yeah.
I've been asked to deliver this to you
What is it?
Your subpoena to give evidence at the trial of Rosemary
West at Winchester Crown Court.
FRED (ON TAPE): Rose didn't kill no one.
I killed Charmaine when I came out of prison.
For the last time, Rose had no part of this.
Why are they calling on me as a witness?
Rose West's lawyers asked for Fred West's police
interview tapes to be played.
It means the prosecution can put Janet in the stand
and ask her about them.
So that's a good thing.
She can tell him whatever Fred was
saying about Rose on the tapes.
The truth was different.
I'm afraid I can't comment on what counsel may ask you.
But there were other witnesses.
Of course, including the surviving
victims who described how Rose helped
Fred rape and abuse them.
But only you can comment on the truth the tapes.
I just don't know if I can did it.
Go into a room and face that woman.
Put your hand on the Bible and repeat after me.
COURT OFFICER: I swear by Almighty God--
I swear by Almighty God--
COURT OFFICER: That the evidence I shall give--
That the evidence I shall give--
COURT OFFICER: Shall be the truth, the whole truth,
and nothing but the truth.
Shall be the truth, the whole truth,
and nothing but the truth.
LAWYER: Did Fred West ever mention
a pact that he made with Rose?
Yes, he did.
He said shortly before his arrest he and Rose had spoken.
And he agreed to take the blame for everything.
LAWYER: Turning to the murder of Shirley Robinson,
whose body was found in the garden of 25 Cromwell Street,
do you remember something that was said in police
interviews about the position of the baby
that she was pregnant with?
Yes.
That it wasn't found where they expected it to be.
What did Fred West tell you about that?
He said Rose would have done that.
And what did you think he meant by that?
That Rose must have been present at the murder
and that she removed the baby from Shirley's womb
before or after Shirley died.
When Fred West described what had happened to his victims
at Cromwell Street, did he tell you that Rose West was present?
Yes, he did.
And what did he say happened?
He said that he might start things off,
but that Rose would take over.
He said she loved inflicting pain,
that there were times when he'd seen
her inflict the most terrible pain imaginable on young women.
LAWYER: And you are in no doubt that he was telling the truth?
None at all.
LAWYER: One final question, Mrs. Leach,
the evidence of a number of potential witnesses
in this case has been compromised
because they have made dealings with the press
for financial benefit.
Have you either spoken to the press or media
or being paid by them?
No, I haven't.
No more questions, My Lord.
JUDGE: This court will adjourn.
We will continue with your evidence
after lunch, Mrs. Leach.
COURT OFFICER: All rise.
What did he see.
They don't care how long they have to wait,
they want you back in court.
The doctors have explained because you
may have had a minor stroke, you can't
go back until you feel ready.
I can't back into that court, Mike.
They're onto "The Mirror" thing.
No you don't know that.
If they don't know, they're going to find out.
Who's that from?
Hazel Savage.
The woman detective?
The one that was good to you?
Yeah, the one that did more than anyone else
to solve the case.
Don't let the bastards grind you down.
She's right, isn't she?
MIKE: What are you going to do?
LAWYER: Did you ever ask yourself, Mrs. Leach,
whether some of the things Fred West told you were far fetched
or sheer fantasy?
And even on those occasions when he appeared
to be plausible he was actually spinning a web of lies
to draw you in?
I often asked myself that question.
And are you quite sure he wasn't just using you?
Using me for what?
Using you as some kind of trophy
in order to try and make Rose jealous.
LAWYER: Why did you continue a relationship with Fred West
after your role as appropriate adult ended?
Well, I--
LAWYER: You visited him in prison regularly, did you not?
I believed that because I had his trust,
I might eventually be able to persuade
him to tell the full story.
And when you had that full story,
what did you intend to do with it?
What do you mean?
Did you think you might sell your version of it
to the newspapers?
May I remind you, you are under oath, Mrs. Beach?
And that to lie under oath is to commit
a serious crime of perjury.
Have you sold your story to a national newspaper?
JUDGE: Mrs Leach, you must answer the question.
Yes, I have.
LAWYER: Was that newspaper, The Daily Mirror?
Yes, it was.
So when Mr. Levinson asked you whether you had entered
into any agreements with the media to tell your story,
you were lying?
Yes, I was.
LAWYER: Your continued your relationship with Fred West
for profit?
No, that's not fair.
LAWYER: You encouraged him to give
the most lurid account possible because that
would give you a better story.
No.
LAWYER: And you happily swallowed
his lies about Rose West, because all you wanted
was a story.
No, it's not true.
LAWYER: Was Fred West emotionally attached to you?
Were you romantically involved with Fred West?
No.
No more questions, your honor.
JUDGE: Mr. Levinson.
LAWYER: Last lap, Mrs. Leach.
Mrs. Leach?
You have told the court, you believe
you're able to assist the police investigation
by persuading Fred West to reveal important information
to the police.
Yes.
LAWYER: After you had ceased to be his appropriate adult
and began to visit him in prison,
did you believe there was further information that you
might persuade him to reveal?
Yes, I did.
LAWYER: Could you tell the court what information that was?
JANET: Well--
Fred West told me that there are at least 20 more victims.
LAWYER: 20?
JANET: That's right.
LAWYER: And you believed him?
Yes, I did.
LAWYER: Did he go into detail about who
these victims might be, or where their bodies might be found?
No, he didn't.
But I believe he was getting close to it.
All I wanted was for him to tell the truth,
because I'm a mother myself.
And I know that if my child went missing,
I'd want to know the truth.
LAWYER:
JUDGE: Members of the jury, you have heard the evidence.
You must now retire to consider your verdict.
COURT OFFICER: Will the foreman of the jury please stand?
Have you reached a verdict on which
you all agreed on all counts against the defendant Rosemary
West.
JURY FOREMAN: Yes.
COURT OFFICER: On count 1, do you find the defendant
guilty or not guilty?
JURY FOREMAN: Guilty.
COURT OFFICER: On count 2, do you find the defendant
guilty or not guilty?
JURY FOREMAN: Guilty.
COURT OFFICER: On count 3--
REPORTER: It's taken me ages, but it fits Fred's description.
Country lane, substation, and a map shows a barn up here.
But there's bad news too.
It's been demolished.
I reckon this really could be the place.
Then Then again, it might not be.
Why would he describe it in such detail?
Because it was a lying psychopath.
We'll never know the truth.
The thing is you can't unknow something, can you?
Once someone put some terrible knowledge in your head,
you're stuck with it forever, aren't you?
But you came through it.
You exposed yourself to all that poison and you came through.
Did I?
Oy, are you two in this game or not?
JANET (VOICEOVER): I'll never stop thinking about them,
about all the lost lives, and all
the people who have to carry on after what
this has done to them.